My fix to the Elytra dilemma

[Anmar]

First of all, saddles are 300 gems and are uncraftable and the only other way to get them is from a quest which kinda restricts transportation for the poor. But anyways thats not what i came here to complain about.

Anyways...Theres been some debate and arguments about elytras and whether or not they should be added. At first i didnt want them to be added because it would mean anybody with wings could just easily fly into your base over your walls and do whatever. But then i (and nation members) realized a way elytras could be added and not be unfair.
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/world...lags.4823/
I dont know much about plugins but this plugin allows elytra flying to be disabled in regions. This could be implemented in atlas as a way to combat people trying to fly into bases. Maybe the anti elytra region could automatically spawn like 5 blocks or maybe just a whole chunk off of a claimed town. I havent really looked into the plugin but i think it just disables the elytra when you fly into the anti glide region. This could really help combat the use of elytras to glide into bases.
The only real problem i see with this is with hidden bases. Someone could just be flying and then accidentally fly into the region because of the base being completely underground then fall to their deaths when their elytra disables. But theres 3 ways to combat this problem: 1) A Building Requirement rule which requires a building to be built or a wall to be built in a claimed town so its easily identifiable. 2) No fall damage when falling due to elytra disable (maybe give the player a slow falling effect until ground is reached?) 3) Have the Anti Glide regions marked out by ghost blocks only visible to people with elytras on. (this seems like a hard thing to do so idk)
Another way to add elytras without base breaching is to have an anti air guard tower thats basically a guard tower but it looks like an anti air thingy and it shoots down any elytras coming close.(disables the elytra)


Lastly, another problem is how tf the player is gonna get an elytra in the first place. Well idk thats up to you elders. Maybe purchasable in the shop for a lot of gems? Maybe u can buy for kairos roots?? ok thanks for reading bye.

[Ajaxan]

If we felt the problem was as simple as disabling the ability for non-nation members from entering towns of that nation while using elytra we would have implemented it already. It'd be a 10 minute change. But, unfortunately, it's not that simple because such a solution we consider to be "bad" and I'll explain why.

What happens when you enter the zone? Does it drop you to the ground? Do you fall? Do you get teleported? Either way its a jarring and confusing to randomly and magically be stopped and then prevented from flying. It doesn't make sense and can feel unfair and stupid.

What if you gave people warnings of the zones they can't enter? Sure, but people would still run into them a bunch resulting in the issue above.

No, unfortunately this problem is a bit more difficult to solve in a way that feels nature and makes sense.

[Anmar]

If we felt the problem was as simple as disabling the ability for non-nation members from entering towns of that nation while using elytra we would have implemented it already. It'd be a 10 minute change. But, unfortunately, it's not that simple because such a solution we consider to be "bad" and I'll explain why.

What happens when you enter the zone? Does it drop you to the ground? Do you fall? Do you get teleported? Either way its a jarring and confusing to randomly and magically be stopped and then prevented from flying. It doesn't make sense and can feel unfair and stupid.

What if you gave people warnings of the zones they can't enter? Sure, but people would still run into them a bunch resulting in the issue above.

No, unfortunately this problem is a bit more difficult to solve in a way that feels nature and makes sense.

i still don’t see how it’s a problem to just make the person flying into an anti glide region fall down with no fall damage??? i heard a nations server similar to this one does it so it’s possible.

[Ajaxan]

It's definitely possible, and at some point, if we can't find a better solution we may do that. But for now we are going to continue thinking of better ways to solve the problem.

[Odin_Drenwin]

Why not just leave elytras out of the game since the server is more based off the olden days when flight wasn't possible. We could just make horses more affordable so even poorer people on the server able to get around quicker

[Adara_]

Why not just leave elytras out of the game since the server is more based off the olden days when flight wasn't possible. We could just make horses more affordable so even poorer people on the server able to get around quicker

cause being able to pour my stored up wealth into a fun pass time of buzzing neutral towns for lols is something I should be able to do!

[idako_the_wizard]

Why not just leave elytras out of the game since the server is more based off the olden days when flight wasn't possible. We could just make horses more affordable so even poorer people on the server able to get around quicker

Full suede is faster than a horse, just a slight bit slower than a maxed mount pet, and faster than a holy mage with dash. Why pay for a saddle when i can cross the map fast anyways?

[Ajaxan]

Why not just leave elytras out of the game since the server is more based off the olden days when flight wasn't possible. We could just make horses more affordable so even poorer people on the server able to get around quicker

Full suede is faster than a horse, just a slight bit slower than a maxed mount pet, and faster than a holy mage with dash. Why pay for a saddle when i can cross the map fast anyways?

That won't be a thing anymore. Now that we've made the design decision for armors to slow you down based on how heavy they are, no armor will ever make you faster than not wearing armor. Instead armors may be light enough to not weigh you down as much, but that's about it.